TCSSC Uncovered
Last year I wrote a post reviewing different sports leagues in Toronto. The TCSSC (Toronto Central Sports and Social Club) is definitely the main league organizer and probably offers the widest variety of different sports, nights and times. One would hope that the largest organizer would be organized themselves, setting good examples for other companies and delivering strong league services. Unfortunately, that is a hope that they continue to dash. In the years I have played with them, I have never been overly amazed at their level of organization, communication or customer relations. They are often more expensive than other leagues, ranging in cost from $100 for an individual to upwards of $800-$900 for some teams. I continued to play with them because I was able to overlook their inadequacies and focus on the fun and good times of the games I was playing. Until now..
This Winter season we signed up a team for our 4th season of Sunday night Ultimate Frisbee. We are in the rec league, which is described by the TCSSC as
“almost no players will have experienced at an organized level of the sport, most having not played at all”.
This fit our description pretty well. We were signing up to learn and have fun. As the season got underway, we realized we were losing pretty badly each week against teams that had definitely played before, and were very well organized (ie. running drills during time outs). Some skill differentiation between teams is to be expected, but the real deal breaker for me was finding out that at least 2 of the teams are actually comprised of TCSSC employees. They are literally doing somersault catches and boasting that they usually play at the intermediate or advanced level. WTF?
Being a letter-writer by nature, I wrote the TCSSC a concerned and less than impressed email yesterday. The captain of the 1st place team responded saying,
“We happened to get a couple new players this season who have proved to be quite good, as well our team as a whole seems to be getting better at the game too.” and “We figured we would be good this season but we didn’t think we’d blow away all the teams (and we don’t have a perfect season, 1 tie and 1 loss)” out of a total of 9 games played.
The team in 2nd place is also comprised of TCSSC employees, winning 7 of their 9 games.
M point is this: People sign up to play because they are hoping to be competitive and to have some fun. From time to time its expected you will come up against a team that is probably out of your division. To face crushing defeats week after week is not so much fun and it is unacceptable that these dominant offenders are the organizers of the league itself. Surely they know the guidelines for each divisions, and surely they also know their skill set before they sign up. I honestly feel that our Sunday “games” are their practice. Why would we want to continue to pay hundreds of dollars to the TCSSC only to have them negate their own guidelines and rules and wipe the floor with us on a weekly basis? Where is the fun in that?
I am writing this because I am slightly outraged, and feel that anyone reading this post should be aware of the current situation. I am not sure if this has been happening in any other leagues but welcome feedback and discussion.

This organization is a little bit ridiculous for sure. I play summer softball with them and have four years and we’re consistently baffled by their lack of organization, poor communication practice around rain outs (even though they have email and phone numbers for everyone in the league) and their unwillingness to help resolve conflicts that their own ineptitude caused. That said, I really like playing sports so I kinda just suck it up. Nice post. These guys are brutal.
[...] what happens when the team who is ‘too good’ for a certain skill category is made up of staff of the league? Hmmm, I’m going to have to agree with Toronto Uncovered on this one. That seems a bit out of [...]
Hey, folks! I just want to let people know that we take the concerns and comments of all of our members (good and bad) very seriously. I am going to be speaking with Heather about these issues as soon as possible.
Please keep in mind that when SSC members need to to chat, our phone lines are always open. Further, we are not perfect, and we are always trying to improve. When we get your help in the process, the outcomes are usually positive.
Cheers,
Rol Miller
Director, TSSC
Thanks for commenting and reaching out to me so quickly Rol – I look forward to chatting with you on the phone tomorrow and coming to a resolution!
[...] this week I wrote a post called TCSSC Uncovered, which described how my rec level ultimate frisbee team had been matched against teams well above [...]
So what was the outcome of your meeting with tssc?
hey mike – check out the update on the discussion here